Later on he became tourmanager for Genesis. When the audition came, I was absolutely up for it. Unfortunately, they never really had to change drummers before. And Phil and I had a lot of the same roots. To be honest, the problem started with all the band specially because many people believe (I also do) that the relation between Tony and Steve wasn't good since he recorded Voyage (Tony was clear, no solo projects, and Steve didn't invited him but calling Mike and Phil), plus the fact that Tony was suposed to be the main songwritter, but Steve wanted to fight this position with him. Somebody would have their radio on the outside. Not at all. I really admire his career, and his commitment to his FAMILY. Bill Bruford, Neil Peart, Phil Ehart (even producer), Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, Jeff Porcaro, Carl Palmer, Mike Portnoy, Mick Fleetwood (The band uses his name ), John Bonham, Carmine Appice, Stewart Copeland, Cozzy Powell, Lars Ulrich, Lee Kerslake, Don Henley, Pat Mastelotto, Terry Bozzio, Roger Taylor, Billy Cobham. In fact, most of the names of the drummers appear almost always at the end of the credits in the album covers. None of the other members really knew how to communicate in a funny way with their audiences. Some of his hits are cheesy. That must have been a very satisfying experience. I didnt see Phils tour. ), Forum Policies, Rules, and Terms of Service. A couple of the Drum Duets were released as singles in several places in South America and some countries in Europe, which is kind of cool. And so the horns would make a mistake and hed turn around and look at me. 153K views, 2.9K likes, 787 loves, 221 comments, 2.6K shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Genesis Reunion 2020: Phil Collins and Chester Thompson Genesis The Last Domino Tour . And Maurice too, actually. Steve and I always stayed pretty good friends. No. I probably heard more Elvis than anything in the Fifties. Was it hard on your marriage that you were never home? "It was quite an adjustment for me. Even though [guitarist] Daryl [Stuermer] and I werent technically in [Genesis], we toured as the band. Lee Kerslake: he sings backing vocals but again not the main composer in Uriah Heep. It was perfect timing and what a fun tour. Were just dealing with Covid. The rhythm sections at several of the gigs had big bands. Ive still got pretty mixed feelings about it. Its very nice to get that stuff, but at the same time, because Ive moved on, its taking me back and forcing me to deal with it again. Man, it was wonderful. I enjoyed it though. His name was Birdlegs [James Youman]. Why didnt it go well? Oh, and this blew my mind. It was a much bigger band, Thompson told Rolling Stone in a new interview. -Ballads in Prog Rock are underrated, because Prog Rock is not "romantic". this can result in this site earning a commission. But with Phil, youre one of a cast of thousands. Great drummer. He was a member from the beginning, when they did there really masterful work, but no one seems to mention that. He ended up with a recording contract. I was there just a week and I actually ran across them in Sydney. It was a fun tour. The whole band took Tony's side (There's no Genesis without Tony) instead of compromising, giving more songs to Steve, It's ridiculous that Your Own Special Way was in W&W instead of Steve's superior material. None of that. Not at all. "This album is dedicated to Richard MacPhail who left April, 1973.". Alan White studied a bit of piano, but he is mainly self-taught as a drummer. And so we were doing Salt Peanuts at like 200 miles an hour. Well, after the first tour they were like, Were going to bring you in for the next album. Phil was all for it. Chester Thompson on Decade-Long Rift with Crab Apple Phil Collins. There were all these conversations going back and forth that Id try to track. For lack of a better word, they are really, really British. Who knows what thats going to look like at this point. [Laughs]. Also, drum parts in Genesis are not very easy to play and sing at the same time on stage. I never liked the idea of re-recording old favourites but Im getting a little bit intrested now. But the next thing I know, they started having meetings. But I was fortunate. Phil Collins lost ability to drum on 2007 Genesis reunion tour Yeah. But to a lot of the fans, I guess they feel like it is. The way my life has gone down, I cant say that I planned any of it. Mike, Tony and Peter seem to be working very well together composing and its hard for Phil and Stevein the beginning to contribute. Genesis' Reunion Tour: 8 Questions We Have - Rolling Stone They were all good friends to the point where they said, Lets do this. So the vibe was great. Yeah. Were drums your first love as an instrument? At one point on that show, I was supposed to play a backbeat to go into the last tune. I wonder something, this guy was never a Genesis member, he was describe as a "Musical friend of the band", what the hell is he doing here? I have no idea. They all put in something that made their music special. There was no getting around it. It was another situation of me not getting any sleep since I was up all night writing charts. Yeah. Yeah. Phil Collins had to hire Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford. Boy, we got in rehearsal and it was like oil and water. This was so clear that inSeconfsOutduring the mixture they recorded guitar parts withan incredibly low volume. That was amazing. They were doing Cloudburst and all that stuff. Ralph and I had to watch each other like hawks and really listen carefully. I agree, one weak album, because GTR was a multi members enterproce that involved even Steve Howe, but it wa a disaster. In fact, we wound up doing a tour opening for them. Weird. Max Roach and Art Blakey were first. I absolutely loved this round table discussion of Zappa's drummers. I did most of my tracks like Inca Roads with George on piano. He could really play. What was he like? Theyre just sitting there like, Impress me. It really annoyed them that they reached event status as opposed to just playing to fans. I wasnt aware of any of that. Phil releases "My favourite Genesis tracks from the 70`s" - rerecorded with old friends. I was playing in the San Francisco production of The Wiz back then. [Laughs] Culturally, we were on opposite sides of the world. I don't think he's bnasty, seems a nice chap, but he said too many stupid things and then contradicted himself depending in the way the market went, He said Prog is crap when Prog was unpopular and harrased by Punk, Discoor New Wave, but when his boring pop became part of the past he changed and said he always was a proghead. He was a different kind of guy, but what a nice, gentle kind of person. But at this point in life, if I could do my own stuff, Id really love that. Among other things, in one interview Bruford said: "In YES, the most important members are the singer, the bassist and guitarists like Rabin and Howe. Phil Collins - Take me Home (live 1990) - Chester Thompson Drum cam The vibe just changed. They were having a little congratulations party for Tony [Smith] to celebrate 30 years of management or something. -Guitarists/vocalists/bassists/keyboardists "heroes" are the most important members in a band . How was the 2007 Genesis tour? And its fine. He was pretty disappointed. How did you grow as a drummer during your time in Weather Report? Former touring drummer Chester Thompson and Collins had a falling out and have not spoken in years. There were pictures taken and all that. Phil Collins & Chester Thompson (Seconds Out 1977) - YouTube I know they are planning a European portion. Its just that on tour, Daryl and I both would sometimes get dragged to a media thing. Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Progatron, Feb 4, 2021. But on that first tour, Id be like, Come on, man. She was with Michael Jackson and was actually working with Prince when he passed. (I am totally serious, the tamborine dance is amazing), Phil Colinskilled my friends younger brother, I saw him do it i swear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There was no getting around it. Exactly. It was really disturbing because for the first two weeks. But at this point Id be curious to see it. I read it and just wept because most of it had happened by that point. From Jazz (Weather Report), to Rock (Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention), to Pop (Genesis/Phil Collins) to Gospel (Ron Kenoly), Chester Thompson has surpassed the boundaries of musical genres. I guess I should. The guy had a great feel, but he wasnt a real reader. My wife had her own career when we met. They said to me, Youre playing it wrong. But the manager had gone out of his way to call me before we took the Christmas break since they were so happy with the tracks wed done. I was never in a teenage band. It was a lot. It was pretty valuable stuff. He is just a great drummer. What a nice man, Don Van Vliet. Influenced by the likes of Max Roach, Art Blakey, Elvin Jones, and Tony Williams along with the popular music . It got awkward. I worked with him during a really happy period in his life. This is the same time that Chicago and Elton John are recording there. Phil double-tracked all the drum parts. What I don't like is MUZAK (Elevator music), and that's Phil's field. Basically, we rehearsed eight hours a day, 40 hours a week. By then, I had heard a lot of the prog-rock stuff and was very interested to play with those guys. After a year with him, I spent some time in Boston with a keyboard player named Webster Lewis, who was phenomenal. Thompson believed he had landed a short-term job when Collins asked him to join Genesis without an audition in 1977, but he went on to take part in every road trip until 2007 and was also a. Santana had actually asked me to play in his band right before the call came from Phil. He's a good drummer. Obviously it's not definitive, but the Chester Thompson Wiki page does have some information on it. And even though I listened to the cassettes, I didnt get a real feel for what was going on before I got there. And then I ended up doing Phils Motown thing and that didnt go well. It wasnt his most intense stuff, but fortunately I knew who he was and that it was going to be good stuff. Most surely he didn't made s much money as Phil Tony and Mike, but he has a wealthy positiobn and artistic respect, something that Genesis lost. The first few stadiums, its like, Oh, my goodness! And then it starts feeling normal. At one point, we discussed it and it was like, If we dont really need to be there, you guys are fine to go and do what youre doing. [Laughs]. I thougfh the consensus was that Collins was not the only reason, but just a small part of Genesis's evolving intoa pop band? Bruno Primas Forum Resident Location: Wisconsin We go in the studio with Jaco, and Alphonsos feel and Jacos feel are radically different. It was great. Heres the crazy thing, man. So, he had to be at the front of the stage. Phil Collins Blamed His Drummer for Everything on Debut Solo Tour Everybody had a say. This means nothing at all, it's almost a tradition. !11, Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation, Piano, Programming, Orchestration, Fender Rhodes, Fortepiano, Keyboards, Keyboards, Programming, Orchestration, Engineer, Keyboards, Mixing, Orchestration, Engineer, Programming, Guitar, Orchestration, ?, Main Performer, Harmonica, Percussion, Vocals, Producer, Vocals (Background). I didnt know until later. Enjoy! I found out I wasnt going to Chicago and then Phil [Collins] called me himself, basically offering the Genesis gig. Editors picks How did you manage to bridge that gap culturally? Yeah. most great drummers won't ever do that, because they live for their drums. Its interesting to see peoples perception of what they think it is as opposed to the way it really was. Phil Collins - Gesang, Piano, Schlagzeug; Daryl Stuermer - Gitarre; But what a great tour and what a great band. [Laughs] Again, Im loving what Im doing with my band. With the exception of when he is doing his solo work, Collins is usuallythe one most in the background, going with the opinions of the rest of the group. IN THIS 2014 INTERVIEW, PHIL COLLINS DESCRIBES HOW HE RECRUITED THE AMERICAN DRUMMER CHESTER THOMPSON TO PLAY DRUMS WITH GENESIS, REPLACING PHIL AS THE PRIMA. It sounds like ever thing thing is scripted and being read by a bad actor. Chester Thompson on Decade-Long Rift with Crab Apple Phil Collins In the latter years, he had a pretty clear picture. It was not at all unusual for all the families to be on tour together. He flew me out to L.A. and liked my playing and we immediately started rehearsing. And I think its a fantastic opportunity that his son gets to play with him because his son drummed backstage when he was five. We wouldnt just play a song in five. I was the second drummer. We did European tour in a van. I was taking lessons from a friend of my brothers who was a jazz player by choice. With that said, I love all of the Genesis albums from 1972-1977, including A Trick of the Tail and Seconds Out which both have Phil Collins on lead vocals. Before one tour, we sat there and listened to all the previous tours and everything we did. It was really interesting because I never considered that I might learn to play other instruments. There was a short tour coming up and he reached out to me. My first drum lessons were in jazz. None of the other members really knew how to communicate in a funny way with their audiences. Can anyone speculate as to why Chester Thompson won't be - Reddit It was just there. Ginger Baker: mainly a composer as soloist. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/llins-frank-zappa-weather-report-1122064/amp/, https://ultimateclassicrock.com/chester-thompson-phil-collins-solo-tour/. Everything wasnt that, but a lot of the tunes went that way. How was Frank as a bandleader? Exactly. It wasnt the same kind of luxury and stuff, which is fine. Do you think if Genesis come to America, youd want to go see the show? We crossed paths several times [after that] and there were never any weird vibes about it or anything. I called Joe and was like, I just got this message from Wayne saying not to come to the studio. Oh, my goodness. George shared with me that [violinist] Jean-Luc [Ponty] didnt enjoy it so much because he couldnt stand being silly. The studio had tanks in the studio since they dealt with it all the time. It was just different. It is an impressing line up. I interviewed Chester years ago for Percussive Notes, and he's a great guy, we actually spent an entire day together. Phil Collins / Chester Thompson (Genesis) Drum Duet 1980 - 84 - YouTube 0:00 / 6:04 Phil Collins / Chester Thompson (Genesis) Drum Duet 1980 - 84 Seven Stones 2.15K subscribers Subscribe 1.5K. Hes gone., Were the dates in Australia and other markets you didnt hit the first time? Phil Collins is a top ten drummer, a good backing vocalistr, an average lead singer and a lousy songwritter, that's my opinion. Unfortunately, somehow Ike or his people lost the master tape. But when that whole tour was announced, Phil was very insistent that it was not going to be a big tour. Not all his music is that way.With the exception of his Disney music albums and his "Testify" album, I have listened to most of his albums.I found some good songs there. It lets me read for about 90 seconds before it yanks the article. When Phil said that his 2004 tour was going to be his last one, did you believe him? It was pretty profitable. I thought, Why not? I had no idea I was going to fall in love with teaching. Did it surprise you that they called you back? Duke lp is OK but Misunderstanding shoud not be on that LP that is more of Onion Head solo lp song. What was the first music you remember hearing as a child that really struck you? The first Phil solo tour was kind of a drag. Sorry man, but Steve is the only Genesis member that released a whole album with new version of Genesis songs, i can't understand how somebody can say he didn't liked the music. I knew it was in the works. We started playing the whole deal, the real stuff in the book. I didnt know, but he did step back for quite a while. Oh, my goodness! But he still had that American stuff. I believe I saw him on that same clinic tour 84-85 in NJ. This edition features drummer Chester Thompson. How did you wind up touring with Ben E. King in 1969? And he just totally shot down the idea of doing anything. That's All. I just basically kept my mouth shut and my eyes open. The other guy called himself Sonship, Woody Theus. Phil helped survive Genesis. The very first live concert I saw was Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers. That was just rhythm section, [keyboardist] George Duke, [bassist] Tom Fowler. I also think that he is underrated, because he likes ballads, and not many people who likes Prog Music likes ballads. I started playing clubs at 13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7_vNpVXubA, What happened from there? You knew it at five years old. Basically, I want to keep putting things out. First thing out of his mouth was, Would you come back to the band? It was perfect timing. I don't think he was ever going to be on board with expanding it to additional legs. In San Francisco, they have a minimum on these shows. At one point, he toured with us. According to what Chester said in an interview, he had offered his services as a drummer, but Mike and Tony were looking to make a fresh start and looked for different musicians to play with the band. Chester Thompson on His Years With Genesis, Frank Zappa, and Weather Report He spent 30 years in Genesis as a touring drummer, but he had a falling out with Phil Collins in 2010 and they haven't spoken since www.yahoo.com 1975 Slingerland Stage Band, Poplar/Mahogany, White Marine Pearl (20,12,13,14, plus 16 Premier) Chester Thompson. His marriage was falling apart. I dont know if they were connected owner-wise, but there was a whole circuit of those theaters. But Im over it now. Too bad Vinnie couldn't make it. My opinion is that Phil is a nice person with a good sense of humour. Chester Thompson, who spent more than 30 years playing drums live with Genesis, recalled how Phil Collins targeted him every time things went wrong on the frontmans debut solo tour. Thank you, I agree with you about the intelligent debate and even if we disagree about somethings in the end its down to a matter of opinons. That was fun, but it was a one-off. The problem is that after a couple of albums Tony lost xcontrol and Phil decided what path to take, making a parallel solo career that is comonly mistaken with Genesis later albums, that's what I blame him for.Actually I havent heard Hacketts Genesis revisited - is it good? But after reading the (excellent) interview, I have to say I'm quite surprised at how Chester was treated by the guys through the years. Smart interviewer, letting an interesting subject just go. We were out there hitting it together and theres something about that. [Laughs] Umm I didnt really think it was going to be the end. I saw everybody in those days. He was smelling the money. I saw James Brown, an early Motown revue, Sam Cooke, Chuck Jackson, Jerry Butler, the Impressions, Sam and Dave, all the Stax artists. It pretty much broke me up. Has Phil talked to you at all in the past 10 years? I was just thinking, What in the heck is going on here?, I imagine one day you guys will speak again. Had they brought me, they would have had to pay another musician just to sit there. Oh, goodness. Do you recall first hearing In the Air Tonight? Id hang out with these guys and theyd play all sorts of crazy stuff Id never heard before. Apparently Phil and Bill grew up near each other and knew each other fairly well. I mean, there was mutual respect and stuff, but there was never, like, a friendship. Well, lets see. [Laughs]. After that, I went back to Baltimore to a community college for a couple of years. They limit the amount of times you can access their site. Whats it like to walk onto that stage and see just an ocean of people going insane? I was leaving straight from San Francisco. You couldnt take yourself that seriously. If you werent busy enough with Genesis tours and Phil Collins tours, you joined Santana in 1984? Exactly as described! No. Unknown to me, he quit over the Christmas holidays. Chester Thompson - DRUMMERWORLD So I continue quite off topic! The difference being I wasnt so much into the English drummers, like Keith Moon, and he was. Come the day of the show, Peter was wherever he was at the moment, which wasnt where he said hed be the day before. My problem is not even Phil the singer (Even when I like Pete's voice and singing more), my problem is wiyth Phil the songwritter. And at the end of the show, he just went off. She scored one of Spike Lees movie. Well, probably. In Europe, everyone in the audience knew all of their catalog. Its me in the beginning and then in the middle of the tune, when it goes into the bridge with the swing feel, you hear a completely different ambience, different drum sound, different everything. Chester Thompson sheds some light on relationship with Phil Collins I mean, how many damn sings can one guywrite for Disney? It was the biggest adjustment Ive ever had to make, musically and culturally. On the We Cant Dance tour in 1992, did you sense that Phil wasnt going to continue with Genesis after it? Born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland, Chester Thompson took to the drums at an early age.James Harris, a family friend and jazz drummer, first introduced Chester to the drum kit at age 11, and by the time he was 13, Thompson was already doing club gigs in the greater Baltimore area. Its an interesting gig musically speaking. So many songs, so many albums, so many concerts. Phil Collins open to Genesis reunion with son, Nic, on drums Unfortunately, they never had enough of his clear vocals to release it, or anything. By then, radio was getting pretty segregated. The only person I didnt see was probably Otis Redding. Breaks Down His Killer White House Correspondents Dinner Set, Bernie Sanders: Many GOP Leaders 'Don't Even Believe in Democracy'. [Sighs] Thats a whole drama Im not crazy about.
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