She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. Rather, Im conservative when it comes to potential disagreement with the jury: I wasnt there to see/hear evidence and to declare theyre wrong! That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. Wow. I want to know why no one has answered this question: if there was no root found on the hair clutched in Joanns hand how was the lab able to produce all those results that could not have been found without roots??? The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. You say by definition! But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. Probably by the jeans and the boots. Am I missing something? Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. Weak wages. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. Angry that Joann hung up on her, she stalked her for three days, then broke into her basement and cut the phone line, put a gun to Joanns head as she was placing Alex in the car, and forced her to drive to the rural area. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. I agree. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. False. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. Having read that and your most recent comment above, its clearly obvious youre a person of high educational standing and legal knowledge, which I fully respect. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. Keep up your delusions. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. What definition? An infant was lying face down on her stomach. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. It makes me sick. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. Once you create your profile, you will be able to: But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. Vonda Smith: An Unexpected Twist . Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Justice is about uncovering the truth. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. And NOBODY saw her at all? Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. Patricia Rorrer: The Hang Up: Directed by Joe Berlinger, Catharine Park. Whatever the truth is. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. The state police dropped him as a suspect. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. More hairs there. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. Hoist by my own petard! Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. There are innocent people in prison. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? She was also accused of breaking into barns, stealing horses, and underfeeding the ones she owned. because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. When Andy Katrinak comes home to find his wife and infant son gone, he summons the police and tells them he believes they have been abducted, and he suspects his ex-girlfriend Patty Rorrer might be involved. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Have you read the book? They are total bs. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. Episode Info. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. I dont even know its Christmas.. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. They are a joke. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. PATRICIA RORRER, : : Petitioner : v. : CIVIL ACTION NUMBER 19-01398 : WENDY K. NICHOLAS, : : Respondents : MOTION FOR DISCOVERY AND CONSOLIDATED MEMORANDUM OF LAW .
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