She indicates guilty knowledge about what happened. The pair were playing "tigers" on the lawn of their foster grandmother's home at Kendall, on the NSW Mid-North Coast, when the three-year-old vanished in September 2014. The sentence would be fine said as with my mum and daughter, the listener would not be confused with that, and we would be none the wiser. And, I just want to let everybody know (looks at phone). A detective feels that noone recognized the Boy in the Box even though his likeness was circulated everywhere and even mailed out with everyone's gas bills because he had been made to live as a girl and that his hair was haphazrdly cut after he died (because it had been--there were clumps of hair stuck to his body) to try to disguise the body as the boy had had long hair like a girl before he died and that's how people would have remembered him as (a girl) even though he was a boy.I believe Martha M's story. Get the monthly weather forecast for Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, including daily high/low, historical averages, to help you plan ahead. I agree with what Adrian wrote: the initial repeated no could represent youre way off track. The foster mother then weakens this initial response: not that Im aware of. Whatever happened to him happened during the nighttimethats why they keep talking about bright clothes, visibilty etc. And I wanted to put it out there. The editor of it tidied it up to make it more readable. I cant figure it out. The foster mother had intended taking family photos of William placing a drawing on Opa's grave, which is in Kendall cemetery on a ridge above the Benaroon Drive house. All the language used is negative and we have the repeated words I just see nothing. So from the start she outlines the huge threat that hangs over William's life that morning: - two cars;- tinted windows (alluding to invisibility of William? "Our family was living a nightmare," she said. She alludes to this early in her statement when she says I wasn't going to take her to the hospital. I`m sorry. His language shows he has a need to convince that things were done within a certain amount of time. The last time I saw William he didn't really call me anything. In 2019, the foster mother tearfully told the podcast which arose from the 'Where's William' campaign that William's disappearance was 'the never-ending nightmare' in their lives. Melissa told Karlie's mom that Karlie grabbed the steering wheel when she was in the car. Any other distinguishing features? "Nothing" includes "thing". In a separate matter unrelated to the NSW Crime Commission charges, the foster parents were last year charged with the alleged common assault of a child who was not William Tyrrell. Melissa goes as far as to say that Karlie didnt want to leave her side-going into the bathroom with her. Would they walk over and ask to part his hair? For example, if the person is missing at sea, or in sub zero weather, the natural resistance to referring to the missing person in the past tense will be diminished. Carnage outside the nightclubs of Britain with Bank holiday treat! Looks interesting but there is a lot of text to analyse in the full statement.Adrian. I would suspect that a lot of rumours would have been be circulating in the community about what had happened to Karlie, and Melissa was forced to address some of those in her lengthy and jumbled statement. Thanks. She tells us she did that for a bit which is an unspecified amount of time. This, this is heading down the path of abduction or something more sin, sinister. However, they went one day earlier. Its horrible. "We have been photographed at our most vulnerable it breaks our hearts and is just so wrong," she said. You're right -> the foster mother changes "we" to "I" -> so there may have been another person. Did he take William(s body) somewhere while he was away (William was with me, William was with me)?Autumn, Do we know what "jobs" the foster father ran in town? They were questioned about their understanding of abuse and neglect, their response to dealing with children's behaviour resulting from neglect, and their willingness to protect a child's identity and culture. Michael, I would not be surprised if the foster mother did not say "Do you see daddy's car" at all. On Thursday, detectives from strike force Rosann which was established to investigate Tyrrells disappearance issued a 56-year-old woman with a court attendance notice. She is telling us that it is only racing, no big deal. Therefore I assumed the foster mother only has brothers. This suggests that karlie did leave in a car and Melissa knows it.If you read the sentence back putting I instead of you it all makes sense. So, in the timeline that they say. on the left hand side youll see a freckle on the top of his head. And she repeats it, making that important to her. "I hear a roar [from William] and then I hear nothing. To have the car out of the picture so that it was less likely to be searched for forensic evidence?One thing I found odd was the mother saying in the 60 minutes interview (when asked when she last saw William): Playing around that patio area. Funny you are trying to shut me down because you don't like my opinion so who is egotistical and rude? National; Courts & Law; Inside the William Tyrrell inquest. His head had been shaved. There are many uses of language that suggest the father believes William is deceased, more than just talking in past tense. AutumnP: Did you think initially that oh, kids being kids, hes in a Spiderman uniform, hes probably just climbing trees?M: No its not William, its not William, he doesnt do that. She didnt take her cell phone. We have to take peoples words literally. After denying and subsequently entertaining the possibility that anyone suspicious was in the area, the foster mom probably without realizing it points the finger firmly at herself: I was out there.Autumn, Leigh, I don't know of such a forum. I think that she couldve been abducted or taken because we do live by a highway, and, it happens and Im bein realAutumn, From Casey Anthony jailhouse tapes (I'm not sure she ever said anything about woods, but she said she could feel Caylee was not far -> she was found in a wooded area less than a mile from the Anthony house):CINDY ANTHONY: But do you think after this long she`d still be local? What I also realized is: its actually very weird that the faces of the foster parents are blurred in every interview video and that we dont know their names. The foster mothers linguistic disposition towards William is neutral at best, making it. Investigations under strike force Rosann continue.. Wheres Colombo when you need him eh? To hide Williams body? I said wheres he gone? There may be a reason she is not directly mentioning this. He [wouldnt] go far.The fathers answer has problems with the order of events we see he says he I arrived back, I was on my way back and then I`d arrived back.Id arrived back [and been asked] if William was with me This is very vague information. The fact that Melissa cannot recall the events correctly points to her fabricating (very badly) her story. No, I know. And, um, so, um, we hung out for a little bit in the kitchen, talked a bunch, and then her brothers went to bed Her first reference to "hung out", initially I flagged for sounding like she was more a peer than a stepmother. I dont know what exactly.-The world is cruel and the world is real -> Is that what really happened? Why cant I see the red?So strange. Autumn. She occasionally shares photos of her eldest son online and maintains a private Facebook group dedicated to bringing him home. So if I know nothing why would I tell someone that I know nothing? And then, for the neighbor to say he saw her at 6:30 in the morning, is what he told me, but he's older. Although I dont think its suspicious per se to be thankful to authorities in such a situation, this feels different: its almost as if shes relieved because they didnt find Karlie (I watched the video and thats also what her body language exuded i.m.o. OT-Karlie GuseAdrian, Thank you for looking up and watching that video. The charges come as police spend a third day searching three areas in Kendall, on the NSW Mid-North Coast, for Williams body. We have to ask what was so big a problem in reporting karlies death to the Police, were there signs of abuse or were they just scared of all the negative attention they were going to get for not preventing it.Adrian. We don't know what crazy Mummy did--was she putting a wig on him? Why have they spent months working tirelessly, quietly to expose a three-year-old childs state-care status? The evidence (his car) is probably long gone and useless now, but saying that I am not a forensics expert so it would be interesting to get an opinion from one. The order of recall is like you said a total mess. That would be very stupid, all the more because this is one of Australias most famous and highly publicized criminal cases. The foster mother also specifically said in the emergency call that she did not see anyone suspicious nearby at the time William disappeared. : she didnt hold him because she took a photo, he jumped off, fell on this head and died). Any vehicles?Foster Mother: No, no, no, no well not that I no not that I'm aware of. NO MORE SILENCE.". The foster mother allegedly saying "Do you see daddy's car" fits right into that scenario because it implies William walked towards the road where he supposedly was grabbed by a kidnapper. The foster mother, who has a sister and two brothers, had intervened in a minor squabble between two of her siblings over property stored at her mother's Kendall house ahead of its proposed imminent sale. She fails to give us where she was and what she was doing at that moment. - The mother passes over the question, Would he have had any shoes on, do you know? Unfortunately, it was a compound question, of which she chose to address only the second part about any other distinguishing features. You may ask someone in the vicinity if they saw anything. What ai meant by muddies the water is that the ongoing comments such as Michael's are way far apart from actual statement analysis and the principles Peter focuses on and reads way too much into it. We don't know who's got him. Another thing that struck me is that the foster parents never even mention the biological parents. "She arranged for his "abduction" out of the yard (it was really that she sold him. Envy seeks to destroy.What would have made mother envious & then what did she do?Keep thinking, Clarice. A mother would be the closest: mother and child relationship is highly personal. I dont think the mother is batshit crazy. Thank You to CHP-love you! We were just, I was out there talking with my mum and my other daughter soThe repeated no does show sensitivity to the question. In the initial stage, it didnt even occur to me that those cars werent there.Yes all very negative language. "William's empty car seat next to his sister's in the back seat absolutely tore our hearts," she said. We should consider why we even have her words to analyse. Who cares what she did? I was speaking for me, answering a question to me. Just like Deorr.They last saw him at the campfire with the Grandpa at the campground.DEORR WAS NEVER EVEN THERE.SAME WITH THIS BOY.FATHER CARRIED HIM DOWNHILL. That you can get a real explanation from that knows where she`s been. Yes, Anonymous, Michael's "bad vibes" and baseless scenarios are a distraction to many of us.. Well maybe you should heed what I say. It doesn't mean that they aren't welcome it just means for me I have a hard time deciphering through them. William's biological father slammed authorities for letting them down. When they didn't hear a roar, they went outside to look. She was awake. They are not from a Police interview or news report, she has given us them freely, but why? William's foster parents have both vehemently denied any involvement in his disappearance. Her part (role) is to say she has to do something. In a statement released on Thursday, NSW police said the woman was charged with knowingly giving false or misleading evidence. In that case, she had to leave William alone in the tree (she couldnt hold him since she had to take some distance to take the photo). Laws is a town situated south of Chalfant at the base of the mountains. So we ask what made her use the language she did. Operator: OK.Foster Mother: Ah, I thought it could be five, it could be longer 'cause he was just playing around here we heard him and then we heard nothing. The world is cruel and the world is real it doesnt matter where you live because you just never know. Please can you put her face out there in the hope someone will provide information about her whereabouts.She only uses Karlie once and that is as social introduction my daughter Karlie Guse all other references are her or she.I know [her] and she wouldnt leave for this long! There seem to be many clues.Autumn. Did she JUST make him have an accident? I wonder: is she herself trying to send us a message between the lines? William Tyrrell inquest finishes 18 months of evidence with emotional gift from foster family. 'He's never opened up about that Look what they've done to me, look what they've done to my son,' his mother said. Love for her Facebook friends expressed. "He will be the kid in the Spiderman outfit" is what she told him.That's why she said "Do you see Daddy's car? "I was driving to Port Macquarie Airport to collect a family member, and had this flash of [realisation that] there were two cars," she said, adding she had forgotten about them in the panic of William's disappearance. "She continued to ask where her brother was she was deeply missing her best friend and we had no answers.". Most people would say about or around when giving a time reference as an approximation, but the fathers use of the word within stands out. At the inquest she futhermore said she thought she heard a scream. But also it could represent that other things were done. I thought the following sentence from the mother (in the police interview) is very telling: His sister no longer has a brother, we no longer have a son, we no longer have a child, we no longer have our boy. Apparently they think or know William is no longer alive or else he wouldnt have stopped being a their son and his sisters brother.I checked the foster mothers statements in the police interview again and you are right: it is crazy how often she says just. Great post Lucia.it is unexpected to describe the freckle that you would have to part the hair to see. And ,I don't have anything to hide. With member Allanna Smith at the helm, they have spent months in a legal battle for the right to reveal that William was in the care of the Department of Family and Community Services under the Minister Pru Goward when he went missing. The coronial findings will be handed down on June 18, 2021. It`s just very hard. I am absolutely loving how you guys are solving this crime. It declined to comment further due to the ongoing police investigation into William's disappearance. I am getting a very dark vibe from this case.Did you hear the way the father saysHappy Birthday, Williamin a deep menacing tone.William was abused by both parents.The mother is disgusting with her Little Tara & retarded babbling explanations of what William was doing in back of the house when he disappeared.Also, why would you ever try to put a 3 yr old in a high tree & try to make him climb it like he is a pet/animal?I wonder what she washed in the wasing machine?Evidence?Did she put William in there as a punishment? That on returning home the Father accidentally ran over William with his car. I have also transcribed Melissas first FB Live statement from the day Karlie disappeared and her sensitivity to all things car related continues. According to NSW Supreme Court documents in the case brought by children's advocate Allanna Smith against FACS, the foster parents feared they would be identified and this would bring further harassment of themselves, their family and friends. The foster mother begins her emergency call with a greeting Yeah hi. This level of politeness is unexpected in an emergency call which is often described as a form of excited utterance.. William Tyrrell's foster-mother has broken down on the stand recalling the moment she thought that her son's abductor also planned to take her daughter. Now we see her bring in others to take the focus of her with we heard him and then we heard nothing, we expect the use of the pronoun I.Operator: There wasn't anyone um suspicious in the area? In a car? Did the person go missing in a high crime area? And ,I don't have anything to hide. William Tyrrell: how new evidence revived the case and triggered a fresh search effort, Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, 2023 Guardian News & Media Limited or its affiliated companies. However, I think the stepmother knows what happened to Karlie. The mother is batshit crazy and the fakest thing I've ever seen.I did notice the mother in the 60 minutes thing say that William wandered around the house and that she called out to him "Do you see Daddy's car" and that William then disappeared. (Supplied)William's birth father had seen his son only a month before the boy vanished on September 12, 2014. "William's father hasn't been the same since he disappeared in a way, two sons have been lost.". Also it was kept quiet by police etc that William and his sister were in foster care. Whatever happened to William, I doubt there was a lot of blood -> they had sniffer dogs the same day going around Nannas house and the area -> wouldnt the dogs (and police) have noticed a large blood stain? The foster mother now says she's not fond of the photo of William in the Spider-Man suit. Why would theyHave hidden itIf it was an accidentAnd the father accidentally ran him over?Keep thinking. Even regarding the mark on the head, the operator asked about any distinguishing features, and the foster mother gave her one. An instant is not minutes. [She was awake]." Your comment about the cell phone I find very interesting (unless the foster mother used a landline). It was forbidden under FACS laws to reveal William's status as a fostered child, but this very fact was discussed on social media where people shared their suspicions about what had happened to William. If I had spent the day watching TV then I could use the word just meaning thats all I did in my statement. Why should it be a secret to protect the child? A senior detective has told a court he believes the former foster mother of missing boy William Tyrrell knows where he is. But there was always something missing - a child and family of her own. Their parents do. "Like water, followed the path of least resistance."Underground. What was the color of their car?Autumn. The full quote of I see nothing, I hear nothing, Im speechless reminds me of the three monkeys. I do have suspicions about the night before. At first her story was that she and her mother were drinking tea on the porch and heard a last "roar" from William "and then nothing". This kind of confusion of pronouns is not natural. As the family statement was delivered to an emotional courtroom, William's birth grandmother sobbed in the witness box. ]I am looking for more.Adrian. In the police interview she is asked what she sees when looking at that picture. June 14 - William's grandmother scolds police who have failed to find the young boy after four years, and claims their latest search is 'just for show'. The parents went through a working with children check, interviews with social workers about why they wanted to foster a child, and an examination of their capacity to keep a child safe. Now that you say it -> indeed she seems to quickly talk over him so as to prevent him from spilling details.Autumn. 'Kind of strange that the fact that authorities had been "flying over" gave the stepmother the urge to say "I have to do something". On that morning, before he went missing, Id put him in a tree because Mums got some good climbing trees, and he was in it, and he said, No Mummy its too high, get me down, and I said to him Why, why dont you try?, and he said No Mummy too high, get me down, so he wouldnt be in a tree, its not in him.Your point about the tree climbing is interesting. We talked the whole way home. Have those sightings been discredited? It is just something that happened to them - not who they are. Also: there's the word "just" again. And so, I was, I was up and then I would doze off and then I was up and I would doze off and she was there the whole time. The girl, who cannot be identified, was playing with her younger sibling when three-year-old William vanished from their foster grandmother's Kendall home in 2014. Dr Phil then said, have you ever seen me publish a guest's address? His foster parents are reported to be persons of interest in the case, December 15, 2021: Police reveal a bone fragment of unknown origin has been found in the search ahead, and are planning to wrap up the search by the end of the week, By I had a meeting and I arrived back and there was a bit of confusion if William was with me, because hes always looking out for me and my car, and I was on my way back, and Id arrived back and been asked if William was with me and I said no, then I immediately got out of the car and started looking around, and within 5 minutes we raised the alarm and I think I ran the perimeter of the whole street within about 10-15 minutes, and I mean, he wouldnt, hes not a wanderer, he wouldnt even cross the street by himself. If the cell phone was with Karlie then it could possibly be tracked by law enforcement. In his opening address, council assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock, SC, said it was not widely known that William's foster family were supposed to travel from Sydney to Kendall on the day he disappeared. It was [like] when a child hurts themselves unexpectedly there's a scream," she recounted to counsel assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock SC on day-two of the inquest "It [felt] like a scream," she said of September 12, 2014, the day he vanished from his foster grandmother's rural property at Kendall, on the NSW mid-north coast. Her mom also said that Melissa's car was in the shop two days after the disappearance with front end damage. I believe Melissa up until we get to the use of the word just (twice). August 24- William's foster child status is revealed after a landmark court ruling. Why? What do the Police records, news articles give as the number? While telling us the positive statement she was awake her head shakes in disagreement with her words. Looking at either the first or second use of the word we end up with the same outcome which is deceptive language.A clever criminal may commit a crime and then drive round in order to be witnessed by others so as to appear they were looking/searching for a missing person.